from my experience, unprecedented performance in a vice-presidential debate by one of participant it's. >> chris, you know what -- let me interrupt you real quick. what was amazing was some of the topics were, when he was laughing and smirking, one of them, i noticed was the iran, when paul ryan was talking about iran. listen, tai may disagree about how long it takes iran to get a nuclear weapon or how much of a threat iran is, but clearly, iran is a threat, eventually. and the laughing in the smiling, in would think, perhaps, that would be misplaced at that point. it's interesting. there are a lot of people all over reacting to that. >> yeah, in fairness, i don't think he was laughing about the situation in iran. i think he was laughing, portraying that -- poor, dim, paul ryan didn't know what he was talking about and didn't understand the situation. on libya and tax, i thought that ryan had the clear edge.